“Objects mean everything to me”
How long have you been in this space?
Since February of this year, it took a bit of breaking in. But as soon as I got that couch in here things started to come into place.
Do you think of your studio as a second home?
Yeah definitely, to the point where it is almost an escape if I need to get away from home. It’s a little island of solitude sometimes. Where you can just come and be in you own thoughts, not be judged, and just be your most natural self in a lot of ways. Usually you’re up here by yourself, its a pretty peaceful place for that reason.
How does the space you are working in influence your practice?
Massively, I’m such a big believer in this concept that someone wrote about, I can’t remember who its was as I heard it through someone else…. The idea of the ‘studio ecosystem’ ! All the little objects that accumulate in your studio, they are alive right? And they kind of work their way into your paintings, which is very clearly the situation here. Your studio becomes this breathing ecosystem that absorbs objects of painting but also objects of the outside world. My paintings are very much about that amalgamation of the two worlds, in terms of talking about painting’s history, but also concerns of the real world and how they fit together. My studio is influenced by this hugely because its so important for me to have things in my studio. When you first came her at the start of the year and it was a bit of a blank canvas I really struggled to make work. I need ‘stuff’ to bounce off of.
Do you see your studio as a 3d mood board?
Yeah! Absolutely! And, some stuff just sits in the studio, for months and months, and one day you walk in and think “yep, I know what to do with that”. The fact that it’s there is the most important part. And then the other part of it relates to the show that’s going to be here at Carclew which is entirely dependent on space, its an installation piece. It’s going to be a really fun show, but you can see how these stairs have become a drying rack.
There’s so many canvases!
It’s going to be in the Carclew foyer, these canvases are going to be bumper to bumper across the beam the entire way around that rom. The mass is completely in response to that space. However, the way that I have made the canvases has been entirely dictated by this studio space. The colours are dripping onto each others canvases as a result of the ‘drying rack’. It had everything to do with space.
What’s something in your studio that has transcended locations?
I love this question as I am so excited about objects! Objects mean everything to me. Im’s just looking around … there’s a thing … its super weird. It’s this!
A sink strainer?
Yeah, when I was in second year my friends and I used this to open up our paint cans, and it just stayed in my studio when they finished studying and I went on to do honours. It just stayed there, and no one thought to take it and use it for the sink again. When I left uni I felt like I had to take it as it’s a weird lucky charm. It’s the most significant studio object, and most sentimental thing, a horseshoe that you hang on a door. I’d be so sad if it ever went missing.
I notice you are holding a hammer, how does physicality and processes of ‘work’ relate to your practice?
I have things here like a drill, and all that sort of stuff, but the most basic ways of making just make so much sense to me. In the same way that I love taking photos but I can’t for the life of me figure out how to relate to a digital camera. I have to take film as I can understand the way the film advances along the camera. It’s so much about being able to understand the physicality of it for me.
So thats why, even though I have so many tools in the studio, I always go for the hammer. Those pieces in the corner are a good representation of how important physicality is to me. When I was a kid, I would lock myself in dad’s shed and build all this random shit, just with hammers, nails and bits of wood. That, more than anything, informs a lot of what I do, the really crude, almost childish way I tend to make things.
The use of tools has always been important to me, but particularly, the tools that you don’t even have to plug in. The concept of physical force, and maybe the result is something a little bit crude, but it’s something more personal.
Do you like the control that analogue tools have?
Yes! Even if the result is shittier because of it, you have full control of it, it’s just you and your hands. I don’t think I could ever instruct other people to make for me. It’s important, even with the risk of a piece looking shit at the end. It’s so important that I made it with my hands.